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PostSubject: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:03 pm

So this is laughless!!! i try to connect to DN server and gettin everytime kicked!!! Why ??? have good skill is a reason to been kicked????
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:06 pm

? I guess ui arent unnbanned yet
but i dont know
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:10 pm

yes but i reconnect> start playin > and after an few lucky shoots and a good ratio i have been kicked again and again???
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:11 pm

Ukjonny say to im unbanned
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:13 pm

Well I cant understand that either because he said u are unbanned ....
But maybe there was an mistake or somethin
cant explain that ...
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:14 pm

other admin now online and thinks im a cheater because i have skill? ok i try it now again lol
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:16 pm

Dont know...wait until Johnny is online agian and explain it to him or write PM (Personal Message)
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:20 pm

No problem now i been banned again. Makes fun with u guys i go in future on other server where it is allowed to have skill.
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:29 pm

i dunno why you even were banned in the first place.

you cannot ban for "possible wallhack" as it says in the ban list.

If an admin is unsure of whether it's a cheat or not, they should always get second opinions.. Something is clearly wrong here.

A player with skills shouldn't be banned just because they have map knowledge and control over their aim.

I'm truly amazed that I didn't get banned for having over 50 kills and like 15 deaths in less than 15 mins the other day. Very Happy Someone should even have a demo of that round :p
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:37 pm

@Dexx44
Sorry, if you've been banned innocently. Be sure that we won't tolerate this behavior from our admins.
PM me your IP and the name you were playing with. I'll unbann you.
Also PM me which admin banned you, if you know who it was.

@all Admins
READ THE SERVER RULES AND FOLLOW/ENFORCE THEM THATS YOUR JOB!
http://www.DrunkNoobs.com/t230-server-rules-english-uk-us
Only ban WITH a demo!
After you've banned someone put the Demo, Name, IP, Reason on our Google docs ban list immediately!
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:03 pm

I realy dont know how has ban me. headbanger makes a demo from me, i play under the name CrAnk but the most (not on DN Server) knows me as Dexx44. Its realy sad. I was kicked again and try to talt to anyone how was online and kicked me but no reaktion... I like the server and dont wanne insulte anyone, but its a big problem on the server that some admins not differentiate a good player or a cheater. Another example was Kinsuke...one off the best players i know, was also banned here. Against him i was playin like a absolutly noob and now i gettin kicked with my modest skills... Everyone can use his ears, here the enemy come or see his weapon through some walls/doors.I know nearly every places where an enemy can be, or in what positions its able to shoot someone. I move quickly, jump around to have everything in view. I play since 3 years often again hard enemys mostly on eagle. Too bad that this is now a disadvantage for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:08 pm

the demo, IP, reason to ban and the admin who banned you can be found in the ban list.

http://www.DrunkNoobs.com/h13-banlist

last line.
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:20 pm

Crank no use wh.

I'll upload a demo
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:23 pm

Thx Kiko nice fight today against you =)
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:56 pm

put this in console to see demo

/r_shownormals 1


observe and comment

megaupload.com NCQ706SJ
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:26 pm

Put this in the console to see demo

/quit
/uninstall

Observe and comment

I reviewed your demo because Dexx is an eVo regular who we/I admire having around.
In order to properly catch a wallhack you need to ask yourself these questions
1)Was sound involved in the kill
2)Does he seem to follow EVERY enemy(A wallhacker isn't picky when he's tracing)
3)Does he check certain spots regardless if there's an enemy there or not(Betok's roof, cableCar, 3 windows, train windows)
4)Did he miss any enemies a wallhack would have seen?

Based on your demo and these questions there was no wallhack.

Where's my demo so we can have a repeat?
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:48 pm

Nice demo of him playing, now can i please have one of him wallhacking?
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:22 pm

Reply of the day haha
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:56 pm

Quote :
i dunno why you even were banned in the first place.

@ Mazfer, you were the one who suspected him of having a low fov and you don't know why he got banned?


Quote :
If an admin is unsure of whether it's a cheat or not, they should always get second opinions.. Something is clearly wrong here.

I did take long time before I kick / ban him. In fact, I even did not want to ban him until ImNo0B said he is possible wall hack and he would say yes for a ban.

Besides, you should have read my comment in ban list. It was "requires reviews" and for ban lift date it was "until reviewed".

So I had let clan leaders / other admins to review the demo and judge lifting the ban.

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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:14 pm

suspected yes.. that's not the same as being certain of, right?

I don't ban just cos I think they are using cheats, I ban if I'm 100% sure of it. If I suspect someone cheating, I often spec - demo and then review it over and over again until I'm sure. (unless it becomes quite clear in the game)

But I still wouldn't ban cos of "possible" cheating. In that case I'd ask for a review and a second or third or fourth opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:23 pm

sad... nearly a 4:1 ratio Sad
i can see absolutly nothing than can a player with modest skills which can think that i been a hacker. I scouting the map and the places where a enemy can be, and move continued by the map. If i should have a wallhack, why i should look at everything then why even if there is no adversary??? I would waste my time, or not!? You know something about perspective? I have with my 24 years just good eyes. Watch carefully, I have seen every opponent shortly bevor i have killed him. (or hear him)
Sorry for my bad english im from Germany... and thanks to the few also good players/admins which have seen that i dont be a hacker.
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PostSubject: Re: Kicket again   Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:11 pm

you cant just ban someone so you could review his demo with other admins and then unban. either be sure or let it be and leave the player unbanned until you got the proof/feedback from your admin colleagues.
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